Showing posts with label gbs. Show all posts
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Wednesday, 6 June 2012

ETF Securities replies to "spreads widen dramatically" claim

ETF Securities has replied to Gold ETF Investor's questions about spikes in the spreads (trading costs) of one of its most traded physical gold ETFs.

Figures produced by London Stock Exchange each week calculate 'time weighted' spreads. In the week ending 13 April 2012 a handful of ETF Securities products saw their spreads spike.

Those listed by Gold ETF Investor were:

PHGP: up to 1.26% from 0.14%
SGBS (ETFS Physical Swiss Gold): up to 2.41% from spreads between 0.25%-0.6%
PHSN: up to 14% up from 2.3% the week before.

Tuesday, 22 May 2012

Odd price moves on physical gold ETFs: SGLD, PHAU and PHGP



The gold price dipped below £1000 per ounce again this morning with both ETF Securities dollar and sterling etfs dropping as the dollar index spiked (above) and stock markets bounced starting in the US, may be inspired by US gains on  G8 and talk of Eurobonds.

But this is an excuse to post some odd physical gold ETF price moves from the recent past... however it starts with another mention of the common phenomenon of Fresnillo's price jumping as it did  at the end of trading yesterday (pic below) but peculiar price leaps in gold ETFs (listed below) seem to have calmed a bit - for now at least.


Thursday, 26 April 2012

Indian gold ETF sees first conversion of shares into gold

"Last week, we also made a first physical delivery of gold against the ETF. Ashok Dhamnaskar, an investor from Mumbai, has become the first investor to convert gold ETF units to physical gold on Thursday, April 12, 2012.” Nitin Rakesh, CEO of Motilal Oswal Asset Management told Business Standard on April 18.

Wednesday, 25 April 2012

Indian Gold ETF that swaps shares for gold boosted by festival

The amount of gold sold during yesterday's gold buying festival in India was a disappointment according to Reuters: Prices, inflation dent gold demand on Akshaya Tritiya

That was in the traditional physical markets. But sales in the physical gold ETF market soared as trading costs were waived. The biggest percentage rise (although from a lower base than its larger peers) was seen by the only ETF that gives its investors the option to convert ETF shares into gold.




Monday, 23 April 2012

Sterling gold lowest since 2011: no buyers?

Gold valued in pounds Sterling fell below its lowest (closing) level this year to around $1,010 per ounce today for UK ETF investors. Despite this UK gold ETF investors were mainly sellers.



Thursday, 5 April 2012

I bought gold yesterday

Despite a great deal of uncertainty about my investment rationale, I bought some gold yesterday afternoon. I did it without consulting previous agonies over action vs inaction or anything else other than the price had  fallen below a level that had caused me to think about it earlier in the day.

Tuesday, 20 March 2012

iShares physical gold ETF spreads shot above 3%

Weekly ETF trading data from the London Stock Exchange show that physical gold ETFs make up the majority trading in exchange traded products and that spreads -  the difference between the buying and selling price of shares - for one of these physical gold ETFs rose above 3% at the beginning of the year.

Thursday, 15 March 2012

Gold ETFs snapped-up in London on Thursday

Despite increasing fears that the gold price will fall further shares in UK physical gold exchange traded funds (ETF) were being snapped up on Thursday - with £60 million in net buying via automatic trades. After the London Stock Exchange closed the spot price of gold carried on upwards and is now trading around $1,658 or £1,056 after hitting $1641 lows earlier in the day.

Monday, 12 March 2012

Gold on Monday night 12 March

Not a very inspired go at a market report, just for my own reference. The price of gold was around $1,704 per ounce £1,089 on Monday night.

Thursday, 8 March 2012

Source physical gold ETF SGLD vs PHAU - cheaper, growing fast

Today I tried a bit of research on the size of gold ETFs traded on the London Stock Exchange and on the spreads investors are likely to see (with a helping hand from Index Universe).

The process reveald a few more physical gold ETFs than I expected but most of them were pretty small compared to PHAU, GBS and Source (SGLD), although I couldn't always find their assets under management.

Tuesday, 6 March 2012

Net £16m of physical gold ETFs sold on LSE on Tuesday March 6 2012

Total sales - I think - of physical gold ETFs on the London Stock Exchange today were worth £40.6 million while total purchases came to £24.6 million = net sales of £16 million.

Saturday, 3 December 2011

ETF Securities up for sale - does it matter?

The Financial Times reports that ETF Securities is up for sale. This is the firm which runs and and administers my physical gold ETF shares for a 0.39% annual management charge. The possibility of something like a sale happening at the firm soon was discussed on this blog last month - (Could ETF Securities IPO soon?) - odd things seemed to be going on at the firm back then.

Admittedly the speculation was based almost entirely on a reluctance of its press office to answer any questions about anything at all.

I had asked for historical spreads for it's three physical gold ETFs: PHAU, PHGP and GBS. I wanted to see how differently they behaved in times of stress (based on this Index Universe article and other chat it sounded like PHGP might not be a good deal) and to compare this with Black Rock Gold and General unit trust.

BlackRock provided its fund's spreads for several years within an hour of being asked. ETF Securities told me they would get their research team to take a look - but nothing happened for weeks. Then the head of their press office left, then I asked if the firm was about to IPO... and I haven't heard back from them since.

The question is whether the firm's silence back in November was just the norm or a result of the sale. And could it mean there will be complete silence about anything going on in the firm from now on?

Back in 2008 investors who owned ETF Securities' ETFs narrowly missed disaster when several of its AIG-backed ETFs were forced to stop trading as market makers waited to find out if AIG would be bailed out by the US government.

Several safeguards have been put in place since then and the physical gold products are hopefully not vulnerable to similar problems that require intervention by the provider. But with markets as they are it seems more likely than ever that any flaws in investment products will be tested. This is not a good time for low levels of communication.

But if there are any problems that could effect investors are they less likely to hear about it while an attempt is being made to sell the firm and it is being scrutinised by potential buyers?

The FT's report said: "Goldman Sachs recently sent out information to potential bidders, which include asset managers and private equity groups." This appears to mean that Graham Tuckwell, who owns most of the firm, has given up on the idea of ETF Securities becoming a public company.

Tuesday, 8 November 2011

How much gold do I actually own?


I own 18 ETF Securities Physical Gold ETF shares with the (PHAU) ticker on the London Stock Exchange. Each of these shares entitles me to 0.0982449 of an ounce of gold (according to this page on ETF Securities web site:http://www.etfsecurities.com/msl/index.asp).

Why have I got this much gold per share? According to the PHAU prospectus it's because everyday that the share exists a small chunk of it is paid back to ETF Securities. Over a year these small chunks will equal the 0.39% annual management fee.

The amount of gold per share diminishes every day from the date of the launch which means the older the ETF the less gold each of its shares will be entitled to. When PHAU shares were launched in 2007 they were entitled to 0.1 of an ounce of gold and that has been diminishing ever since. Hence the 0.0982449 of an ounce of gold per share today.

The chart below shows the rate of decay for three physical gold ETFs from November 2009. I picked this date because it was the launch of the ETFS Physical Swiss Gold (SGBS). At launch SGBS shares were entitled to 0.1 fine troy ounce of gold each.

The US dollar version (PHAU) which I own was launched in April 2007 so is entitled to less gold than the Swiss ETF.

Meanwhile Gold Bullion Securities (GBS) is even older having started in 2003. It also pays a higher management fee of 0.4%. However it allows investors to convert their shares into physical gold (which means different rules apply to it - it can't be held in an ISA and the annual management fee is slightly higher (question number 28)).



Even though I am never likely to touch the gold I own, it determines the value of the shares. So the value of PHAU shares diminish inline with the amount of physical gold backing it.

In a 2009 article by Index Universe Ronan O'Shea of market-making firm Nyenburgh, said: "Most of the time the different physical gold trackers have traded in line with the asset value implied by their gold content, with occasional premiums to NAV, which have occurred more often for those funds with a less-diversified creation and redemption mechanism (where ETFs have fewer official market makers - known as 'authorised participants' - who have to offer a price at which they will buy ETF shares from investors and price at which they will sell to them).

What is that gold worth today?

So, if I own 1.7684082 ounces of gold, what do I actually get when I sell it?

At 4.30pm today, when the London Stock Exchange shut up shop, my broker, Hargreaves Lansdown was offering to buy my shares for $176.40 each. If each share is entitled to 0.0982449 of an ounce of gold then they would be paying me $1,795.5 per ounce (176.4/0.0982449).



That's before working out what the pound dollar conversion rate would be or taking into account the £11.95 cost of selling.

But first I want to check that I am actually getting a reasonable deal on the gold spot price. According to BullionVault's spot price chart the selling price of gold was pretty close to $1,795 at 4.30pm.




It looks like I've done better than I should have done!

But what have I got in pounds? If I take my 1.7684082 ounces of gold and multiply it by the value of $1,795.5 per ounce it comes out at $3,175.20 for the whole lot. When I wrote this story the pound was buying $1.60 (Google Chart) and so my investment would be worth £1,984 in total.

Does this correspond with the pound denominated version of this ETF? The value of the PHGP exchange traded fund was £109.65 to sell. I have 18 shares, this would have come to £1,973, so I'm out by a bit - it could be the exchange rate (I don't know which one they're using, or just straight maths failure).

I can also check the value of my holding in the Hargreaves Lansdown account which is based on the bid price and on a $1.6072 exchange rate. That comes out a lot closer to the PHGP value (not surprisingly!) at £1,975.61



If I took my gold to a pawnshop in Hackney, what would I get?

All together, in ounces my shares hold 1.7684082 oz(troy) which converts into 55.0036 g.

If I wanted to sell my gold in a Hackney pawnshop I'd got to one called Cashier (last month they offered me the best deal) and today their selling price was £25 per gram which would have got me just £1,375 for all my gold. Bear in mind that they only offer it on 22 carat gold and the gold I own is 24 carat.